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what are chances for khalistan
Posted by: mandeep (IP Logged)
Date: March 13, 2008 09:54PM

everyone wants to leave punjab

sikhs soon to be minority

most youth have no knowledge on sikhism

the economy would collapse

farmers killing themselves

half the youth hooked on drugs

 



Re: what are chances for khalistan
Posted by: Harinder Singh (IP Logged)
Date: March 14, 2008 05:24AM

what are the chances of India?
over populattion
future energy crisis due to peak oil
around 25 crore muslims(allah-uu akhbar, hahahaha) living within india
Freedom struggles going on in north east and kashmir
china(china might be a bigger threat than pakistan, indians might act brave in front of pakistanis but with china, hindu chinnii bhai bhai, hahahaha)
Pakistan
Khalsa(seeking justice for 47, after 47, 84, after 84).

 



Re: what are chances for khalistan
Posted by: oothpathang (IP Logged)
Date: March 14, 2008 07:18AM

It is better to concentrate on your bhagti than these kinds of topics bro.

 



Re: what are chances for khalistan
Posted by: mandeep (IP Logged)
Date: March 15, 2008 03:26AM

Harinder Singh india is considered to become a superpower with china, leading economist and the biggest company's in the world want to invest in india, corruption is huge but being fought, india is in the process of building itself up from the ground up.

Punjab is falling apart from top bottom, only reason punjab still at top of india cause we were 30 years ahead of india, but now gujarate goign to overtake punjab with their economy growing at 12-14% a year, that means they will have twice as much wealth in 5-6 years, their going to have twice as much money, and its predicted for india's economy to grow at 9% per year and thats considered conservative, that means in 8 years if all the money is contributed equally, the poor middle class and upper class are going to have twice as much money.

 



Re: what are chances for khalistan
Posted by: Harinder Singh (IP Logged)
Date: March 15, 2008 09:36AM

Dear Mandeep
i dont hate indians, infact i pray for the well-being of the whole humanity and that includes europeans, amerricans, afghanis, indians etc. Yes india is getting very rich, but what we need to understand is that there is going to be TERRIBLE TERRIBLE TERRRIBLE TERRIBLE ENERGY CRISIS in the NEAR future.
This world is getting more and more dipolar everyday ie. USA and Russia,China.
Right now usa has lots of business with china, but it will change in the future and usa is going to depend A LOT on india.Then at the same time fight for resources(oil, gas, water) will start and China(much much more strong than India, China in a few years can challenge usa even in army) is going to have India as their one of their top enemies,weakining india will weaken usa(thats how much usa is going to depend on india in the future).
INDIA IS DOOMED.And its doomed that I dont think in the last 4 yuggs(thats thousands and thousands of years)some thing that terible would have happened, whats going to happen in India in the future and yes Punjab will suffer equally but Khalsa will survive and finally will RULE. U dont have to agree with me, lets leave it on time, sab kuch sahmnne aa jana.
RSS(with its huge funds and professional people) can sense the terrible danger and thats why RSS is seeking support of Khalsa and contacting Sant Samaj(Babas), kharrkus living in hong-kong, germany, canada, usa etc.. but RSS is trying to make Khalsa bharat-mata patriotic and muslim-hater,hahahaha(they feel they will succeed with their chanakya nitis).Congress used communist to weaken
Khalsa rehit but now RSS with the help of peoople like Giani Iqbal Singh is trying to revive the rehit as RSS knows that they will need KHalsa to fight Congress, muslims, Pakistan.But whatever happened in 84 and after that, india will have to pay for that.NO DOUBT ABOUT IT.
KAR BURRA HO BURRAAAA.
RAJ KAREGA KHALSA

 



Re: what are chances for khalistan
Posted by: mandeep (IP Logged)
Date: March 15, 2008 11:33AM

i don't agree with you their, you kind of making it sound like the world's comming to an end and when that happends sikhs will rule

 



Re: what are chances for khalistan
Posted by: sidhu.hcl (IP Logged)
Date: March 15, 2008 02:05PM

I dont know why people demand a "LANDLOCK" country khalistan. India is whole ours. Multiply urslf and grow and prosper. this is the sole funda in a democratic country like ours whre heads get counted.

Sikhs are just 500 yr old and are over 2CRORE and still growing. Guru Ki Sikhi will grow and prosper always thres no need to worry. We have Guruji's Blessing.

" Jab lag khalsa rahe nayara.. tab tak tej deyoon main sara "
We hadnt yet faced any difficulty what sikhi had faced during Guruji's time.

Knowledge abt sikhism should be given to youth at Gurudwara levels.
Again i stress Girls should be taught more to live into sikhism and DHRAM.

In punjab even if economy collapse thres going to be no effect coz thre are only a FEW people in punjab dependent on industries and market. Even if food crisis occurs thres no need to worry for punjab.

AKALI govt is effectively working on relieveing farmars from LOANs But farmers shld also take loan into limits only. thre is no need to sow regular crops . nowdays many othr crops are also avialable tht consume less water and gives more money.

Addiction to drugs isnt any new problem in punjab.DRUG addicts wre earlier more as compared to now-a-days. BY having strong spread of religion this can be eaisly curbed.

 



Re: what are chances for khalistan
Posted by: sikh (IP Logged)
Date: March 15, 2008 04:31PM

dear mandeep

everyone wants to leave punjab

Sikhs soon to be minority

most youth have no knowledge on sikhism

the economy would collapse .yes yes!

Punjab is falling apart from top bottom, only reason punjab still at top of india cause we were 30 years ahead of india !


who is responsible for that?
Sikh? sikhism?
Punjab in India would collaspse,how u think India growing ?
punjab part of india?
if u say yes; if head(brain) died how can your(india)body growing up?

 



Re: what are chances for khalistan
Posted by: oothpathang (IP Logged)
Date: March 15, 2008 08:42PM

We should first make Khalsa Raaj over our Mann then think of some political Khalsa Raaj.

My opinion is, why not fight to make India a better place? I don't know about you guys, but I consider the land of Bharat as my holy land. This is the land of Dhru, Pralaad, the land of Ramayan and Mahabharat. This is the land where all of our 5 Takhts are located (Not all 5 are in Punajb). This is the land from where all 5 of our original Panj Pyare came from (not all were from Punjab). Our heritage is all over the land of Bharat. This is the land for which so many our forefathers got Shaheed, went into exile to Kala Pani or even went to jail for many years. Do you just want to throw all that away for 12 zillaa's? Think of the bigger picture. We need to change our strategy. Today’s political reality is much different from the political reality of the 1980s.

Injustice did happen to us under congress rule. They betrayed us after independence. They further partitioned our land, stole our water and carried out the atrocities of 84. I believe Sikhs could have achieved much after 84 if they were lead by rightfully guided leaders. Unfortunately most of our leaders who although were great warriors, and even Dharmic Singhs, but were politically uninformed.

We need to open our Taksals (religious schools) all over Punjab to spread Dharm over Punjab then the rest of India. We need to get rid of Naastic-atheistic minded Sikh organisations of the likes of Kala Afghana's group, Sikh missionary (most of whom are heavily influenced by Kala Afghana), and Anti Dasam Granth groups (also mostly Kala Afghana influenced). Then we have to also deal with the Radhaswamis, Noormahalias, Sacha Souda Gurudoms. With all these enemies of the Panth eating away at the very fabric of our Dharm, how can you even think of a political entity of 12 Zillaas?

THINK OF THE BIGGER PICTURE!
THINK MACRO NOT MICRO!

 



Re: what are chances for khalistan
Posted by: mandeep (IP Logged)
Date: March 15, 2008 10:35PM

sikh the world is looking at india, india is predicted to be superpower with china and is rebuilding itself fast and doesn't care if punjab is falling behind while rest of the country prospers

Most the states are progressing with gujarate leading the way

states like punjab uppal pradesh and bihar are falling.

 



Re: what are chances for khalistan
Posted by: Harinder Singh (IP Logged)
Date: March 16, 2008 09:07AM

<< you kind of making it sound like the world's comming to an end and when that happends sikhs will rule >>>

noo, the world is not coming to an end, but the present civilization is reaching a terrible end. After this the world is going to get EXTREMELY beautiful.
And its not that sikhs will wait for the present civilization to fall and then rule, khalsa rule is going to start before that I feel and Khalsa is going to take enemies(with machine guns, tanks, aircrafts, etcc....) HEAD ON.
Anyways, it seems that talking these things with u is like hitting head with a wall, hahahaha. So bhai whatever u think(or if someone is making u think this way), keep on thinking, sab kuch sahmne aa jaana in the very near future.

 



Re: what are chances for khalistan
Posted by: onkar1281 (IP Logged)
Date: March 16, 2008 03:56PM

We need Khalistan to protect our culture and religion from genocide. Because cunning Hindus are trying to assimilate us. These guys are can not live with other communities. They are forcing sikhs to be nationalist so they( sikhs) can not think abt their own land.

We have to educate our sikh brothern to understand deeply rooted conspiracy of these people.

Waheguu ji ka Khalsa
Waheguru ji ki Fateh

 



Re: what are chances for khalistan
Posted by: oothpathang (IP Logged)
Date: March 16, 2008 06:22PM

Onkar 1281,

Hindus are not the enemies of the Sikhs. In Punjab/north India it was the Arya Samajis who were the enemies. The media was in their control and with their unholy alliance with the congress party; they were a deadly combination against the Sikhs. The Arya Samajis used their media to misguide north Indian Hindus to abandon their language which led to the further partition of the Punjab into Haryana, Himachal and Chandigarh. This eventually led to the wholesale theft of Punjab's waters. From there this chain reaction of events eventually led to the violence in Punjab. A whole generation of Singhs got Shaheed in Punjab. The result of the violence was that although many Sikhs died in this conflict, but at the same time the Arya Samajis no longer have influence over the Punjabi Hindus. Punjabi Hindus of today and the Punjabi Hindu of the 1980s are two very different people.

In my opinion, all of Bharat is our heritage. This is our Holy land. The Bhagats whose banis we read in SGGSJ come from all corners of India. Do you not consider the land of Bhagat Kabir, Bhagat Namdev and Bhagat Ravidas Jee as your land? Do you want to separate from the land from where Guru Gobind Singh jee was born? Sikhi is not just confined to the Punjab but all of Bharat.

The thing that is destroying our Dharm right now is communist minded Sikhs in the garb of the Kala Afghanist groups who in reality are the enemies within. They are a Naastik minded group with is turning Sikhs into atheistic mindset. It is these former communists that are our real enemies. Recognize them! Then we also have to deal with all the fake Gurudoms of the Radhaswami/Noormahalias/SachaSouda. Last but not least, the bollywood film industry is also big enemy of the Sikhs and not just Sikhs but all traditional minded Indians.

This Kanjarwood industry is mainly responsible for westernising and erosion of our traditions. Cutting of hair, BF/GF, girls wanting guys who look like clean shaven bollywood stars instead of sticking to traditional guys is all a result of the evil influence of the Bollywood film industry. Sikhs at one time were known to have such a strong character, but now thanks to the kaam filled influence of Kanjarwood, Sikhs (both males and females) have become communities with very low morals, and low character. Sikh men are such Luchaas, we all know it. This is all the evil influence of the bollywood movies.

You need to know who your real enemies are. Like I said, priorities have changed since the 80. During the Guru period, our enemies were the Ram Raiyas, Dhir Malliyas. Post Guru period our enemies were the Mughals. During the Afghan invasion the afghans turned into our deadly enemies. After Ranjit Singh, the British were our enemies. During British rule, the Arya Samajis and Muslim nationalists turned into our rivals. After 1947, the Muslims left, but the Arya Samajis remained as our enemies. But the arya samajis no longer have any importance influance in Punjab, our new enemies are the Naastic minded Sikhs like the Kala Afghanists who are trying to destroy the spirit of Sikhi form within. Same with the fake gurudoms.

Don't get stuck in the past. Times are different from the 80s, and our enemies are also different from the past. The sooner we realize who are real enemy is, the better before it's too late.

 



Re: what are chances for khalistan
Posted by: Harinder Singh (IP Logged)
Date: March 16, 2008 11:47PM

we need khalsa raj(people can call it khalistan) from lahore to new delhi run by 5 brahamgyani singhs(not the present day malech or lalchi "khalsa"). Once we have that the 2 takhts outside the khalsa raj will be used to do parchar.
A civil war is coming in india, alongwith pakistan attack, alongwith north-east naxalites and lots of other groups fighting it out. I have a feeling that khalsa(with EXTREME AND UNIMAGINABLE POWER) is going to rise and is going to fight both new delhi and islamabad. During khalistan movement, many kharrkus left their niyaraapan and took help of ISI, pakistan(and thats why Satguru jee dint give them His Tej),many people used khalistan movement and are today settled in germany, austria, canada, uk and america. It was due to such swarath that Satguru dint give His Power to Khalsa but this time Khalsa is going to take the tekk of Satguru jee only. This time the sevadaars will be ready to sacrifice their EVERYTHING(career, family,money and this temporary body) and as a result Satguru Jee is going to give them the power which has never been witnessed in the last 4 yuggaas.
RAJ KAREGA KHALSA

 



Re: what are chances for khalistan
Posted by: mandeep (IP Logged)
Date: March 17, 2008 12:25AM

no one

Re: what are chances for khalistan new
Posted by: onkar1281 (IP Logged)
Date: March 16, 2008 03:56PM


We need Khalistan to protect our culture and religion from genocide. Because cunning Hindus are trying to assimilate us. These guys are can not live with other communities. They are forcing sikhs to be nationalist so they( sikhs) can not think abt their own land.

We have to educate our sikh brothern to understand deeply rooted conspiracy of these people.

Waheguu ji ka Khalsa
Waheguru ji ki Fateh

only once destroying religion and culture are us

parants don't teach kids religion culture
spoil kids
spoiled kids turn to alchole and drugs

 



Re: what are chances for khalistan
Posted by: mandeep (IP Logged)
Date: March 17, 2008 12:29AM

punjab is falling behind while rest of india rises

 



Re: what are chances for khalistan
Posted by: sidhu.hcl (IP Logged)
Date: March 17, 2008 08:57AM

Landlock country is not the solution to any problem further it will create more problems. SANT Jarnail Singh Bhindrawale also never had idea of builting or demanding a seperate country for sikhs. He gave clear instructions to sikhs living outside and inside to be equipped with Hathyaars so, tht one can protect itself.

 



Re: what are chances for khalistan
Posted by: onkar1281 (IP Logged)
Date: March 17, 2008 03:04PM

Mr. Mandeep


Man the problem from outside also. These forces are attacking our culture and religion via movies,print media and even in education institutions.
See these Gurudoom like sacha suda are patronize by Govt.

We need Khalistan man

 



Re: what are chances for khalistan
Posted by: mandeep (IP Logged)
Date: March 18, 2008 02:17AM

Re: what are chances for khalistan new
Posted by: onkar1281 (IP Logged)
Date: March 17, 2008 03:04PM


Mr. Mandeep


Man the problem from outside also. These forces are attacking our culture and religion via movies,print media and even in education institutions.
See these Gurudoom like sacha suda are patronize by Govt.

We need Khalistan man

could you give me an examples, like with movies do you mean bollywood attacking sikhs and are you talking about sardar jokes, and how the education institutions cause punjab still has great private schools but public schools neve rworked

 



Re: what are chances for khalistan
Posted by: onkar1281 (IP Logged)
Date: March 18, 2008 03:46PM

Mandeep

Are you RSS man in sikhi clothes

Are you really unaware about all.

sorry for u

 
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