ARCHIVED FORUM: Gurdwara Tapoban Sahib
L O S T
Posted by : believer
Date: 7/10/2004 10:43 am
waheguru ji ka khalsa waheguru ji ki fateh.
Dear Sangat ji,
rite where do i start... im just a manmukh living without much ambition or direction and all i really want is to be totally at peace with myself by being a good sikh.
when i listen to bani it makes me sad to think that im never going to reach the goal of a human by realizing God, which is down to my own bad karma.
is there something that i can do to not feel sad, how can i feel chardi kala like others do?? in fact i don't think i'm ever in a positive mood about my life cuz i know im wasting it, i set out to do good things but things always end up going badly from the simplest of things as a conversation, instead of being polite to my fa,mily i just get annoyed and snap- its now got to the stage where i don't talk to them unless i have to.
im quite a calm person but as soon as others are around me i get very frustrated by their actions and total disregard for others and sikhi- not that im anyone to judge. i try to teach people around me about sikhi but they don't seem to pay attention to me.
i know this is all God's play and i should be grateful, no thats wrong i am grateful as i have soooo much compared to others around the world and i do feel privledged to have the simplest of things as many don't even have the bare neccesities in their day to day life.
Bani is the only thing that i like in life but its getting me down as im just a bad person, i go one step forward and two steps back.
can anyone give sum advice??? please
also another thing thats on my mind is seeing people that used to be quite religious outwardly change their appearance to be more western-its really disturbed me and im always thinking if they couldn't keep their faith how will i be able to??
bhul chuk marf karni.
waheguru ji ka khalsa waheguru ji ki fateh.
Re: L O S T
Posted by : questioni
Date: 7/10/2004 7:21 pm
stop caring about others.. try your best to be sikh.. don't feel down. God gives everybody kirpa.. don't give up ????
Re: L O S T
Posted by : singh
Date: 7/10/2004 10:31 pm
b/c these people changing their appearences disturbs you, it shows that you are interested in keeping your faith and probably will. I felt somewhat similarly to you b4.
keep amritvela, especially amritvela simran and full nitnem. this will help a huge amount in the long run. it's what helped life me out of a similar emotional state to a more positive one. be patient though, as it took a few weeks for this to happen. a lot of this stuff you just have to work through. as time goes on these negative qualities in you will weaken and disappear. this is the kirpa of gursikhi.
we have to accept god's will. for some it will take longer than other's to realize their goal. it's not simply a matter of one lifetime. once you accept this and start doing the actions (gursikhi lifestyle) and accept that the results (including mukhti) are up to God you will feel much better.
Re: L O S T
Posted by : Veerji
Date: 7/11/2004 12:08 am
I am in the exact spot as you man, I know how you're feeling yourself.
Every little thing you try to do positive, and it comes back in your face.
It's all Guru jis hukam man, like right now,
Especialy, the two steps part that you mean, man what happesn bro is when we read bani, we got to try to understand it. Just try contemplating one line of gurbani at a time like in sukhmani sahib or what not. Just one line/pankti at a time..
I am a pretty poor guy, I have no money, no car, no nothing. Not even some decent shirts to be honest. That's whats written in my karma, I wasnt 'able to find a decent paying job, so I had to make due with what I got. Just don't give up, only the weak give up.
Re: L O S T
Posted by : Lostprincess
Date: 7/11/2004 8:10 pm
"LOST" I can understand you completely, I have been through the same type to situations as you. First of all, don't feel down, because all the bad feelings you have don't last forever. So cheer up.
I don't know the most greatest advice to give you, but by my experience I can tell you how I have learned to help my own self. I am still dealing with many of the same problems as you are. Sometimes I feel like I am helpless. I just lose it and give up all at once. But for me this is total manmat. I guess when I needed advice or help , noone was there. Maybe Waheguru jee just wanted me to learn a lesson from this that I can't rely on people. I have to help my ownself. And you know the first step I took ? I read Gurbani. It was last week, when I felt really down, so many things on my mind, I was caught in the pool of maya. I hadn't been doing any Gurbani for days, which is of course the reason why I felt this way. But Guru Sahib did some wicked kirpa. I thought of reading Rehraas Sahib this time. And not just reading it. I thought to myself. Gurbani is the answer to everything. Bani Guru Guru Hai bani, vich bani amrit sare|| SO I made a decision to read the meaning of each panktee in the rehraas sahib. As I read more and more, I felt more away from the whole world...it felt just great...i had never really felt this way before....I felt like I was doing the bestest thing in the world...I thought to myself..what other task is more important than reading Guru jee's praise. I am telling you Gurbani is the answer...there are deep meaning to Gurbani....you keep digging and digging, there is no end! So my bestest advice to you get a gutka if you already have it, the one with the meanings,,and read bani nonstop till you finish and then do ardaas in front of guru sahib to bless you with the strength to read more and more Gurbani with the meanings....you take the step...remember, u take one step towards him, and he'll take hundreds :)
and dont compare yourself to others,,,,no no no...you are you, compare your own self with your good deeds and bad deeds. Hey, everyone starts somewhere, I am a beginner, I am still learning, it will take a long time till I start wearing a dumala and wearing full bana, and be a true singhni. But first I need to improve my self from the inside and get close to Gurbani, and know about what all the shaheeds in history did. That's why, don't worry bout others, step by step, taking each step towards sikhi you will feel the chardi kala inside you each day. And dont stop being polite to your family, you start pulling yourself to Guru Sahib, it will seem like there is no reason for you to get annoyed with you family. And as far as teaching others, dont worry bout it. If they don't want to learn great things from you then thats their loss, for me I have always thought of keep learning myself, because there are a lot of things i dont now about sikhi, knowledge is never enough...and IF someone asks, i'll answer them if I know the answer, if I dont know the answer, i'll try to learn about it...
Dont feel down bhenji/veerji....just take the step towards Guru Sahib, forget about the world, about teaching it, about getting annoyed over your family....start getting into sikhi step by step,, learning about it, and apply it to your life...and see what you get:)
bhul chuk muaaf..Waheguru jee ka khalsa Waheguru je ki fateh!
thanks
Posted by : L O S T
Date: 7/12/2004 4:58 am
thanks all, i know i should read bani, but its easier said than dun. i know that my mind will not be focusing on the bani as it constantly wanders, yet on the other hand i know that bani is my only support2.
should i jus pick up a gutka and read and ignore the above, cuz i feel like i'm letting guru ji down by not concentrating on the bani properly or even at all.
